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| ====== Matilda's other grandchildren ====== | ====== Matilda's other grandchildren ====== |
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| | Matilda and Thomas had 12 children, of whom only five had children; of these five, only Thomas de M. M-P and Lizzie Jardine had any grandchildren.\\ |
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| The children of Thomas de Montmorenci and Florence M-P were:\\ | The children of Thomas de Montmorenci and Florence M-P were:\\ |
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| 1. Florence (known as **Florette**) Elizabeth, was born at Bowen, Queensland on 1 January 1879((QBDM ref C105)) and baptised there by the Rev. M. Ross((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda to the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)). It is likely that, to ensure greater safety with her first birth, she was visiting her mother and stepfather there rather than living there. Florette died in Sydney on 12 July 1956.((NSWBDM registration 21403/1957))\\ | 1. Florence (known as **Florette**) Elizabeth M-P, was born at Bowen, Queensland on 1 January 1879((QBDM ref C105)) and baptised there by the Rev. M. Ross((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda to the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)). It is likely that, to ensure greater safety with her first birth, she was visiting her mother and stepfather there rather than living there. Florette died in Sydney on 12 July 1956.((NSWBDM registration 21403/1957))\\ |
| {{:florette_m-p.jpg?150|}}Young Florette.((Provenance: J. Godden to Jill Fleming.)) Is this the photo that TLM-P refers to in his 1888 diary when he notes that on 10 July Florence had 'an appointment with Malthers for [9 year old] Florette's photograph'?)) \\ | {{:florette_m-p.jpg?150|}}Young Florette.((Provenance: J. Godden to Jill Fleming.)) Is this the photo that TLM-P refers to in his 1888 diary when he notes that on 10 July Florence had 'an appointment with Malthers for [9 year old] Florette's photograph'?)) \\ |
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| **For other photos, click on [[Florette]]** | **For other photos, click on [[Florette]]** |
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| 2. **Mabel** Penelope, M.A., Ch.M.(Sydney University) 10 September((Tom A. M-P's family tree has September as does Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Prior//s, p.14 and ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda to the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; Queensland births, 1881, entry C3011 has November))1881 - 9 January 1932. She was born at Ipswich, perhaps on the property that, in 1880 at least, was owned by her grandfather TLM-P: Pullen, Moreton, Ipswich.((H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880// at [[https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=QgRLAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=en&pg=GBS.PR1]])) She was baptised at Ipswich by the Rev. Mr Heath.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry. When reporting her death (with a number of inaccuracies), the //Daily Telegraph// 21 January 1932, p.15 stated that she was born at her parents' Bulli Bulli station in western Queensland.)) Her Sydney University records states that she went to school, presumably as a boarder, at {{http://www.ascham.nsw.edu.au/a-strong-history/|Ascham}}.\\ | 2. **Mabel** Penelope M-P, M.A., Ch.M.(Sydney University) 10 September((Tom A. M-P's family tree has September as does Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Prior//s, p.14 and ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda to the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; Queensland births, 1881, entry C3011 has November))1881 - 9 January 1932. She was born at Ipswich, perhaps on the property that, in 1880 at least, was owned by her grandfather TLM-P: Pullen, Moreton, Ipswich.((H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880// at [[https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=QgRLAQAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&hl=en&pg=GBS.PR1]])) She was baptised at Ipswich by the Rev. Mr Heath.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry. When reporting her death (with a number of inaccuracies), the //Daily Telegraph// 21 January 1932, p.15 stated that she was born at her parents' Bulli Bulli station in western Queensland.)) Her Sydney University records states that she went to school, presumably as a boarder, at {{http://www.ascham.nsw.edu.au/a-strong-history/|Ascham}}.\\ |
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| A young, somewhat idealised Mabel {{:mabel_m-p.jpg?300|}} {{:mabel_mp_horse.jpg?300|}}((Provenance both photos: Jill Fleming. Get better copy of former))\\ | A young, somewhat idealised Mabel {{:mabel_m-p.jpg?300|}} {{:mabel_mp_horse.jpg?300|}}((Provenance both photos: Jill Fleming. Get better copy of former))\\ |
| In 1928, Mabel was living in two caravans in Middlesex, with her address 'Nomad's Camp, Splash Road, Shepperton'. The Staines District Council took her to court claiming she did not have a proper facilities for water or the disposal of waste. She told the court she lived in one caravan with the other used as kennels, and that she did have adequate arrangements: charges were dismissed.((The Daily Mail, 23 October 1828, p.9)) Mabel's step-cousin Dorothy (Dorothea M-P) wrote that Mabel visited Australia around 1921 for a visit: 'After that she travelled for some years before settling down to country life in England and in Ireland. She was a keen sportswoman and took great pleasure in hunting and in breeding dogs. In 1931 she was taking a course in gynaecology in Dublin. We saw her in Ireland before we left for Australia. She was then in poor health after a bad fall. Subsequently pneumonia set in and although news was cabled that she was recovering, there was a sudden relapse. She died in hospital. She was a brave, vivacious and warm-hearted woman, and we have found very many friends who mourn her passing.'((//Magazine of the Women's College//,1932, p.6.)) The //Daily Telegraph//, when reporting her death, described her as 'a lady of brilliant intellect and vivid personality and had a good [medical] practice and a large circle of friends'.((//Daily Telegraph//, 21 January 1932, p.15)) Mabel's support for the British Empire is evident by her 1924 Certificate of Fellowship of the [[wp>British_Empire_Exhibition|British Empire Exhibition]].((Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.50.)) | In 1928, Mabel was living in two caravans in Middlesex, with her address 'Nomad's Camp, Splash Road, Shepperton'. The Staines District Council took her to court claiming she did not have a proper facilities for water or the disposal of waste. She told the court she lived in one caravan with the other used as kennels, and that she did have adequate arrangements: charges were dismissed.((The Daily Mail, 23 October 1828, p.9)) Mabel's step-cousin Dorothy (Dorothea M-P) wrote that Mabel visited Australia around 1921 for a visit: 'After that she travelled for some years before settling down to country life in England and in Ireland. She was a keen sportswoman and took great pleasure in hunting and in breeding dogs. In 1931 she was taking a course in gynaecology in Dublin. We saw her in Ireland before we left for Australia. She was then in poor health after a bad fall. Subsequently pneumonia set in and although news was cabled that she was recovering, there was a sudden relapse. She died in hospital. She was a brave, vivacious and warm-hearted woman, and we have found very many friends who mourn her passing.'((//Magazine of the Women's College//,1932, p.6.)) The //Daily Telegraph//, when reporting her death, described her as 'a lady of brilliant intellect and vivid personality and had a good [medical] practice and a large circle of friends'.((//Daily Telegraph//, 21 January 1932, p.15)) Mabel's support for the British Empire is evident by her 1924 Certificate of Fellowship of the [[wp>British_Empire_Exhibition|British Empire Exhibition]].((Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.50.)) |
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| 3. **Thomas Bertram**, b. 4 February 1883. **See sidebar for separate entry - Matilda's eldest grandson.** \\ | 3. **Thomas Bertram** M-P, b. 4 February 1883. **See sidebar for separate entry - Matilda's eldest grandson.** \\ |
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| 4. **Ethel** Nora, 1 December 1884-1959. She was born at Moonbago Station, South Kennedy, Bully Creek, a station owned, at least in 1880, by her grandfather TLM-P.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880//)) She was baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.))\\ | 4. **Ethel** Nora M-P, 1 December 1884-1959. She was born at Moonbago Station, South Kennedy, Bully Creek, a station owned, at least in 1880, by her grandfather TLM-P.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry; H. Mortimer Franklyn, //A glance at Australia in 1880//)) She was baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.))\\ |
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| Ethel married William Royston (Roy) Butler in 1909((Qld Marriage registration B7898)) and they lived on his father's property 'Staghurst', Toogoolawah in Queensland which Roy managed. In his history, Fox states that Roy Butler also managed another of his father's properties at [[wp>Kilcoy,_Queensland|Kilcoy]].((Matthew Fox, //The history of Queensland: its people and industries: an historical and commercial review descriptive and biographical facts, figures and illustrations: an epitome of progress//, Brisbane: States Publishing Company, 1919, vol.1, p.336)). \\ | Ethel married William Royston (Roy) Butler in 1909((Qld Marriage registration B7898)) and they lived on his father's property 'Staghurst', Toogoolawah in Queensland which Roy managed. In his history, Fox states that Roy Butler also managed another of his father's properties at [[wp>Kilcoy,_Queensland|Kilcoy]].((Matthew Fox, //The history of Queensland: its people and industries: an historical and commercial review descriptive and biographical facts, figures and illustrations: an epitome of progress//, Brisbane: States Publishing Company, 1919, vol.1, p.336)). \\ |
| Ethel and Roy had five children. Ethel wrote 3 letters in 1933 about her family history. These are in the Fryer Library, University of Queensland. If anyone is in Brisbane and could see them, all information gratefully received! The library reference is Letters, 1933 : Toogoolawah, Ethel Butler to A. J. McConnel, Item F808. Ethel was musical like her sister Florette. She went to the trouble of binding her music together in a volume embossed with her name 'E. Butler'. On this sample page, she wrote her name and 'New York 1907', suggesting she obtained it there. {{:ethel_music.jpg?250|}}((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\ | Ethel and Roy had five children. Ethel wrote 3 letters in 1933 about her family history. These are in the Fryer Library, University of Queensland. If anyone is in Brisbane and could see them, all information gratefully received! The library reference is Letters, 1933 : Toogoolawah, Ethel Butler to A. J. McConnel, Item F808. Ethel was musical like her sister Florette. She went to the trouble of binding her music together in a volume embossed with her name 'E. Butler'. On this sample page, she wrote her name and 'New York 1907', suggesting she obtained it there. {{:ethel_music.jpg?250|}}((Provenance: T.A. & M.T. M-P))\\ |
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| 5. **Phyllis** Claudia (23 July 1886 - 1957) She was born at Maroon and baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane by the Rev. M Robinson.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry)). She and Edgar Cannon McConnel married in 1909((Qld marriage registration C892)) and lived for most of their marriage on the McConnel family property [[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/history/|Cressbrook]], near [[wp>/Toogoolawah|Toogoolawah]] in south-west Queensland - close to where her sister Ethel lived after her marriage. Phyllis and her husband were both buried at Cressbrook.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.78 photo of grave; Matthew Fox, //The history of Queensland: its people and industries: an historical and commercial review descriptive and biographical facts, figures and illustrations: an epitome of progress//, Brisbane: States Publishing Company, 1919, Vol. 1, pp.153-54)) Phyllis and Edgar had four children.\\ | 5. **Phyllis** Claudia M-P (23 July 1886 - 1957). She was born at Maroon and baptised at All Saints Church of England, Brisbane by the Rev. M Robinson.(('Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry)). She and Edgar Cannon McConnel married in 1909((Qld marriage registration C892)) and lived for most of their marriage on the McConnel family property [[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/history/|Cressbrook]], near [[wp>/Toogoolawah|Toogoolawah]] in south-west Queensland - close to where her sister Ethel lived after her marriage. Phyllis and her husband were both buried at Cressbrook.((Andrew Darbyshire, A Fair Slice of St Lucia. Thomas Lodge Murray-Prior, St Lucia History Group research paper no. 8, p.78 photo of grave; Matthew Fox, //The history of Queensland: its people and industries: an historical and commercial review descriptive and biographical facts, figures and illustrations: an epitome of progress//, Brisbane: States Publishing Company, 1919, Vol. 1, pp.153-54)) Phyllis and Edgar had four children.\\ |
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| Edgar McConnel was an outstanding horseman and helped train the Australian Light Horsemen during World War I.(([[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/the-mcconnel-family-cressbrook-today/]])) Noted anthropologist, [[wiki>Ursula_McConnel|Ursula McConnel]], was Edgar McConnel's sister, and thus became Mary M-P's (Thomas de M. M-P's 2nd wife) step-niece: different generations of anthropologists of Aboriginal life connected to the one family. \\ | Edgar McConnel was an outstanding horseman and helped train the Australian Light Horsemen during World War I.(([[http://cressbrookstation.com.au/the-mcconnel-family-cressbrook-today/]])) Noted anthropologist, [[wiki>Ursula_McConnel|Ursula McConnel]], was Edgar McConnel's sister, and thus became Mary M-P's (Thomas de M. M-P's 2nd wife) step-niece: different generations of anthropologists of Aboriginal life connected to the one family. \\ |