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| Andrew and Frances Murray Prior’s elder son **Thomas Murray Prior Esq** of Rathdowney m. Catherine Palmer. He was born at Rathdowney in 1773, and 'no doubt' baptised there.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) He was the 7th generation of the family to own Rathdowney, and the last.((Patrick Prior, email to J Godden 14/9/21)). He appears to have been known as Thomas Prior though (see next paragraph) TLM-P appears to suggest he was known as Thomas Murray.\\ | Andrew and Frances Murray Prior’s elder son **Thomas Murray Prior Esq** of Rathdowney m. Catherine Palmer. He was born at Rathdowney in 1773, and 'no doubt' baptised there.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) He was the 7th generation of the family to own Rathdowney, and the last.((Patrick Prior, email to J Godden 14/9/21)). He appears to have been known as Thomas Prior though (see next paragraph) TLM-P appears to suggest he was known as Thomas Murray.\\ |
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| Thomas M-P was High Sherriff of Queen’s County from 1799, and a Member of the Irish Parliament for Lesburne and {{http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/B/Bannow-Bargy-Wexford.php|Bannow}} (remembering that this is still a time when only the wealthier male landowners voted in parliament and they could control multiple seats). His appointment as High Sherriff was the year after the [[wp>Irish_Rebellion_of_1798]]((thanks to Roy M-P for pointing this out)). It is not known what role he played in the brutal suppression of the rebellion.\\ | Thomas M-P was High Sherriff of Queen’s County from 1799, and a Member of the Irish Parliament for Lesburne and {{http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/B/Bannow-Bargy-Wexford.php|Bannow}} (remembering that this is still a time when only the wealthier male landowners voted in parliament and they could control multiple seats). His appointment as High Sherriff was the year after the [[wp>Irish_Rebellion_of_1798]]((thanks to Roy M-P for pointing this out)). It is not known what role he played in the brutal suppression of the rebellion. The Irish National Archives does hold a record which suggests he had some sympathy for the rebels - if he was the 'Thomas Prior' who petitioned against the transportation of John Kennedy for 'Tendering an Oath'. The trail was in 1798 at 'The Minerva at Cork' and the comment was that Kennedy was 'A native of Queens Co., lived within half a mile of Rathdowney'.((Murray-Prior file, The Rathdowney Visitor Information Centre and Historical Museum)).\\ |
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| Thomas was buried at [[wp>Newry|Newry]], County Down (now in Northern Ireland) under the name of Murray on 5 November 1854.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) His wife Catherine was the elder daughter of Joseph Palmer Esq. of Cuffsborough, Queen’s County; Joseph Palmer commanded a militia corps as a Colonel.((John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846, p.1076; Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.49; Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors//, ms written 1901-05, p.12, NLA; Thomas Bertram M-P, //Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty//, ms, n.d. p.5, NLA; ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda to the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) | Thomas was buried at [[wp>Newry|Newry]], County Down (now in Northern Ireland) under the name of Murray on 5 November 1854.((‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda by the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) His wife Catherine was the elder daughter of Joseph Palmer Esq. of Cuffsborough, Queen’s County; Joseph Palmer commanded a militia corps as a Colonel.((John & John B. Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z//, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846, p.1076; Bernard Burke, //A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Colonial Gentry//, Melbourne: E.A. Petherick, 1891-95, p.49; Robert M-P, //The Blood Royal of the Murray-Priors//, ms written 1901-05, p.12, NLA; Thomas Bertram M-P, //Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty//, ms, n.d. p.5, NLA; ‘Questions to be answered by T.L.M-P’, 6pp Memoranda to the Herald Office, Somerset House, London re Burke’s Colonial Gentry.)) |
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| Thomas Bertram M-P records that Thomas had four other children before his liaison with Mary Ann Thompson. He gives no information about the children's mother/s, just that one line of descent was 'John and Annie Murray-Prior and their children Bertram and Coralie, of New South Wales.' and that he had 'No space for more details.' ((Thomas Bertram M-P, Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty, ms, n.d., p.24, NLA.)) Certainly space would be needed to summarise the career of John: a colourful one to say the least! click on [[John Murray Prior/Bertram Murray]] for more.\\ | Thomas Bertram M-P records that Thomas had four other children before his liaison with Mary Ann Thompson. He gives no information about the children's mother/s, just that one line of descent was 'John and Annie Murray-Prior and their children Bertram and Coralie, of New South Wales.' and that he had 'No space for more details.' ((Thomas Bertram M-P, Some Australasian Families Descended from Royalty, ms, n.d., p.24, NLA.)) Certainly space would be needed to summarise the career of John: a colourful one to say the least! click on [[John Murray Prior/Bertram Murray]] for more.\\ |
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| In 2024, a letter written by Alason Tatum (nee Prior) in 1993 reached my brother and I. Alason thought it possible she was related to the M-Ps, and thought her great-great grandfather Daniel Prior(1809-51)of Queen's County, was the son of William Prior and Fanny Mary Fitzpatrick. | |
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| **Sources**: The common source for information about Thomas M-P appears to be John & John B. Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846, p.1076. Robert and Thomas Bertram M-P supplemented their information with family knowledge/gossip. See also TLM-P's //Imperial Family Bible//; Maximilian Genealogy Master Database 2000. | **Sources**: The common source for information about Thomas M-P appears to be John & John B. Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain & Ireland: M to Z, London: Henry Colburn Publisher, 1846, p.1076. Robert and Thomas Bertram M-P supplemented their information with family knowledge/gossip. See also TLM-P's //Imperial Family Bible//; Maximilian Genealogy Master Database 2000. |
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